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Planning Commission to Decide Fate of Palmyra Business

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Published: February 16, 2011 By Wendy Edwards

The owner of a Palmyra-based sporting business has met with some resistance from a small number of his closest neighbors after submitting a request to amend a special use permit (SUP) to expand the shooting area of his facility and to add hours of operations.

Brad Landseadel of Central Virginia Sporting Clays is an NSCA (National Sporting Clays Association) AA class shooter and an NSCA shooting instructor who set up this small business of a shooting range on his property in 2007 so that he could offer an enjoyable pastime for families, friends and business colleagues in and around Fluvanna.

“The shooting range is clay target only, birdshot, not handguns or rifles; not bullets that can go for miles. None of the projectiles can leave our property,” he says. “No one is at physical risk.”

Still there are concerns that noise will become a greater factor. However “we live in a rural area. There are gunshots all the time, but (those from CSVC) are not loud.” To provide an example, Landseadel mentions “a conversation standing in the same room talking to each other in normal voices, not yelling, not whispering, runs about 65 decibels.” He says decibel measurements taken of gunshot noise from a reasonable distance from the sporting clay course have not reached conversation level.

An expansion of the sporting clay course would “provide for more varied shooting for different skill levels and it would allow us to have a tournament, which could bring people in from all over the state.”

Additionally, “any of these bigger tournaments needs to be Saturday and then Sunday would be the second day and we can’t start shooting until noon. People can’t get a whole day’s worth in.”

Changes to Central Virginia Sporting Clays’ special use permit would allow standard hours of operation seven days a week for clients to practice on the range.

“Right now, we are allowed to shoot at 9 a.m. and, in the summer time, have to be done by 8 p.m. In the winter hours we stop at 5 p.m.” every day but Sunday, which the landowner’s current permit does not allow for until noon.

Groups like the graduates of U.Va’s Darden School, the Virginia Vintagers, whose use of “old vintage shotguns” is such a novelty, and the GRITS (Girls Really Into Shooting) gals, a group of younger moms and grandmothers, would be able to stay the weekend in Fluvanna and make the most of their days on the course, “generating other income outside of our business: Bed and breakfast stays, hotel stays. I already give out menus to nearby places and recommend local businesses.”

Landseadel hopes to gain support for the expansion of his business from residents of Fluvanna who understand that shooting sporting clays is a “fun, family activity.”

“[Shooting clays] is very family oriented in terms of what you can do. I have a group of 45-50 year old brothers that meet here once a month and one of them brings their father.

They live in different ends of the state and they go shooting together with dad, who is 89 years old, and sometimes his grandkids come, too, three generations of the same family can come out and play a sport together. How many sports do you know of that mom and dad, grandma and granddad, boys and girls, can participate in together at the same time?”

Families learn “gun safety, first and foremost. We keep the muzzle pointed away from everybody and in a safe direction at all times. Guns stay unloaded at all times with action’s open until it’s the shooter’s turn at the station. Then the barrel has to stay outside the safety frame, pointed in a safe direction down range,” Landseadel says. “Only then are they even allowed to load the gun.”

In our rural surroundings, it isn’t so far-fetched to imagine a bunch of kids sitting around the back of a pickup truck or walking around shooting clay targets on mom and dad’s farm.

“Most kids are pretty good, to be honest with you, but we can teach them to keep fingers off the trigger, match correct ammunition, and provide a safe environment.”

Landseadel hopes the county planning commission will recommend acceptance of the expansion of his special use permit.which is on the main level of the Fluvanna County Courts Building and Central Virginia Sporting Clays asks for your support. For more information, visit http://CentralVirginiaSportingClays.com.



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by Neighbor of Too close.... Mar. 12, 2011, 10:33 PM

Fox Hollow Neighbor,

Thanks for your understanding. I can only hope the BOS will consider the “whole” and not just the wantings of “one man” to build his business in our neighborhood. As we stated at the PC meeting, it is not a ‘gun’ issue..it’s a noise issue. Please make sure you contact your BOS Commissioner to let him know how you feel and please make sure you come to the meeting where this will be heard. Hopefully it’s not Mr. Kenney.

Apparently Shaun Kenney has already made up his mind. I invite ALL BOS to visit Ruritan Lake Road any day of the week to hear the noise we tolerate EVERY DAY!


by Fox hollow neighbor hearing POPS of Fox Hollow Mar. 12, 2011, 07:47 PM

I had the opportunity to partake in a corporate retreat where we, 14 of us, went to a clay shooting area in Ohio. Each of us were given 50 shells and we had 3 hours to rotate through 8 clay shooting areas. At the end we had a hail mary cresendo of shooting with bonus shells. When we left, the neighbors stood at the exit with protest signs, as they did, we later found out, on a regular basis, due to the impact of their life style with the noise. While us guys enjoyed the sporting event, I can only now realize how many families an event like this can negatively inmpact. Back to VA, we in Fox Hollow stood outside our home, Saturday, and went in frustrated with the constant shooting pops. There is no way a rational Fluvanna county comissioneer should approve a yet more expansive clay shooting area and expect property values not to be negatively impacted, thus tax revenue. Really, I can’t imagine how this was approved to begin with.


by Another Neighbor of Branch Rd Feb. 16, 2011, 11:02 PM

Wow! Ms. Edwards, how much did Mr.Landseadel pay you in exchange for your ‘glowing’ article on his business in our neighborhood? Come on, you can tell us!!!!


by Stacie Jakubec Fraser of 4900 feet from Central Virginia Sporting Clays Feb. 16, 2011, 08:47 PM

I too was disappointed in this article. My husband and I bought our “forever home” 9 years ago in what we thought was a safe, rural area to raise our growing family.

For the first 5 years we enjoyed our land and home. And then CVSC moved in. We can’t sit in any room of our home, any day of the week, without hearing hundreds of shots at a time. Sitting on the back porch is out of the question when the range is at full-force. We don’t even get a break on Sundays. I do not look forward to hearing any more than I already have to tolerate.
To say this is article was one-sided is an understatement….


by David Thomas of Bell Farms Lane Feb. 16, 2011, 10:38 AM

I was very disappointed in the article about Central Virginia Sporting Clays article.  It is an unpaid advertisement for a very disruptive business in the center of a “rural residential area”.  There are several subdivisions and over 300 land/home owners who are withing a mile and one half from Mr Lsndseadel’s business.  He is not being honest when he says the noise is not disruptive to his neighbors.  We hear several hundred shot gun blasts daily now and he wants to increast this by a factor of two or three with his expanded hours and area.  We at least have peace for a few hours Sunday morning now but he wants to change that and start first thing Sunday morning.  There were no home owners interviewed for this very one sided article.


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